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  1. OrgUnikum

    Synthesis of P2P by oxidation of alpha-methylstyrene with Oxone (Potassium Peroxomonosulfate) (1kg scale)

    Also 50% H2SO4 converts sodium or potassium persulfate into persulfuric acid what is Caros acid. One mol Oxone has 630 g and contains two oxidation equivalents. One mol of Caros acid has one oxidation equivalent. As with all per-compounds it is a good idea to add something what prevents...
  2. OrgUnikum

    Synthesis of P2P by oxidation of alpha-methylstyrene with Oxone (Potassium Peroxomonosulfate) (1kg scale)

    You need potassium peroxymonosulfate, KHSO5, peroxysulfate is the di-sulfate and has to be converted to the monosulfate first to work. But if you use the di-sulfate sodium peroxysulfate is the better choice as it has a much higher solubility and allows to reduce solvent volume. AFAIK the...
  3. OrgUnikum

    Synthesis of P2P by oxidation of alpha-methylstyrene with Oxone (Potassium Peroxomonosulfate) (1kg scale)

    Oxone is the so called triple salt and consists of potassium peroxymonosulfate the actual oxidizer, potassium sulfate and potassium disulfate in the ratios 2 to 1 to 1 molar. So obviously there comes a lot of unwanted stuff which takes up a lot of volume as the persulfate makes up only about45%...
  4. OrgUnikum

    Synthesis of P2P by oxidation of alpha-methylstyrene with Oxone (Potassium Peroxomonosulfate) (1kg scale)

    Oxone is the so called triple salt and consists of potassium peroxymonosulfate the actual oxidizer, potassium sulfate and potassium disulfate in the ratios 2 to 1 to 1 molar. So obviously there comes a lot of unwanted stuff which takes up a lot of volume as the persulfate makes up only about45%...
  5. OrgUnikum

    BMK Glycidic Acid Sodium Salt Conversion to P2P with 85% Phosphoric Acid + Leuckart-Wallach reaction to yield Amphetamine freebase oil (A-Oil)

    Sure I am ;) And this is how you do it: You need a overhead stirrer, a simple one from an old battery drill works great + PTFE stir-rod + blades off Aliexpress - 10 USD or so. But you can use iron/steel in this reaction without any problems too. Vessel, Stirrer, etc. 60 g P2P need less then 25...
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    Complete amphetamine freebase (A-oil) synthesis from P2P(10L scale)

    I say that I honestly wish it works. I have read articles and patents about the Leuckart en masse with or without catalyst, with or without Voodoo ceremonies but I have not seen it working. Claimed 95% yields with Nickel as catalyst which were once posted came out to be just not true, sadly. I...
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    Complete amphetamine freebase (A-oil) synthesis from P2P(10L scale)

    If you are using normal equipment and not a (recommended) pressure vessel it has to be 20% HCl at max. As the HCl forms the HCl salt with the Amphetamine and that is why you want to use 1,1 molar equivalents or more. If you use 37,5% HCl you will drive off everything over 20% as gas what is...
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    Highest conversion rate of P2P of CAS: 5449-12-7

    Question 
    There is absolutely no need for such high temperatures, 70°C is more then enough. Side reactions occur because the place is too crowded - better yields and less by-product is achieved by using much more water. It is quite obvious. There is no reaction of different compounds taking place after...
  9. OrgUnikum

    Conversion of BMK Glycidic Acid to Phenyl-2-nitropropene

    You mean P2P and this is all over the board, if you mean P2NP you are on the wrong train of thoughts. Won't happen and why?
  10. OrgUnikum

    BMK Glycidic Acid Sodium Salt Conversion to P2P with 85% Phosphoric Acid + Leuckart-Wallach reaction to yield Amphetamine freebase oil (A-Oil)

    For Methamphetamine the Al/Hg reductive Amination gives much better yields and cleaner product. You will have to look a little bit for a really good working method, those all over the net are sub-optimal to put it politely.
  11. OrgUnikum

    One question for a successful drug dealer.

    Does success as a drug dealer compensate for having a micropenis? (asking for a friend....)
  12. OrgUnikum

    BMK Glycidic Acid Sodium Salt Conversion to P2P with 85% Phosphoric Acid + Leuckart-Wallach reaction to yield Amphetamine freebase oil (A-Oil)

    Seems we have an disagreement here and I have no problem at all with the fact. I posted what I had to say and everybody can decide for himself now, the beauty and horrors of free choice :ROFLMAO: Peace and Drugs and Rock'n Roll..!
  13. OrgUnikum

    BMK Glycidic Acid Sodium Salt Conversion to P2P with 85% Phosphoric Acid + Leuckart-Wallach reaction to yield Amphetamine freebase oil (A-Oil)

    But I have a few other questions: - The formic acid you use is the 85% kind? - The acid hydrolysis of the formyl amphetamine - what temperature and how long? I admit this puzzles me a lot as the hydrolysis of formyl-somethings is generally said to need rigorous conditions with acids but only...
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    BMK Glycidic Acid Sodium Salt Conversion to P2P with 85% Phosphoric Acid + Leuckart-Wallach reaction to yield Amphetamine freebase oil (A-Oil)

    In summary every single point named for adding a base to a steamdistillation of P2P is completely bollocks. I am not going through everything, some quick shots: P2P does not react with acids, P2P is virtually completely insoluble in plain water, adding base actually makes it more soluble (what...
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    BMK CAS 718-08-01 conversion to P2P???

    Question 
    Funny is, neither here nor with glycidic acid derivates is a hydrolysis involved. We have saponification whats de-esterification of an acid which is coverted into its salt in the process, and yes you genius acids form salts with bases and so will buturic acid form one with sodium! We have...
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    question about cas 5449 hydrolysis

    Question 
    Stirring is important. Red color is a very bad sign as this is polymerized P2P. P2P has a density of 1,02 g/ml, so it is heavier then water. Except the water contains enough of something what makes it heavier. Like the salt formed when you add the acid. If you used a lot of water - what is very...
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    BMK CAS 718-08-01 conversion to P2P???

    Question 
    This is a colourless to light yellow oil. If what you got is a solid it is not the original compound. Possibly it is already saponified. Put some in water and check the ph. If it is blue to litmus paper then it is exactly this and you can throw it in a lot of cold water and directly add acid...
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    BMK CAS 718-08-01 conversion to P2P???

    Question 
    CAS 718-08-01 3-OXO-4-PHENYL-BUTYRIC ACID ETHYL ESTER Saponify with base and then decarboxylate the acid? Looks like the identical process to the old PMK is advised. In your picture you show a magic BMK to amphetamine conversion which does not exist. You first make P2P and then the Amine. Two...
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    BMK Glycidic Acid Sodium Salt Conversion to P2P with 85% Phosphoric Acid + Leuckart-Wallach reaction to yield Amphetamine freebase oil (A-Oil)

    Is this a compilation or a tried and true process? Anyways, it looks not bad on a first glance, there is only one thing I saw what is simply wrong, and that is adding potassium carbonate to the water for P2P steam-distillation. P2P and bases does not do good, you risk polymerizing your P2P into...
  20. OrgUnikum

    Phenylacetone (P2P) synthesis from benzaldehyde with butanone

    Nobody gasses Amphetamine. The HCl salt of it is virtually unusable as it is highly hygroscopic, sucking water from the air, creating a puddle and running off. Whats important is filtration and washing plus (steam)distillation of the base. I posted the whole post-reaction procedure already...
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